https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_naval_forces_in_the_Falklands_War Abel Smith, RN), destroyer HMS Clare (Lt.Cdr. Group IX; LST's HMS Misoa (T/Lt. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. She was launched on 9 July 1964, and was delivered to the Royal Navy two years later.A twin launcher for the Seaslug anti-aircraft missile was fitted aft.At the start of the Falklands campaign, on 2 April 1982, Two weeks later on 14 May, she supported British special forces during the At the beginning of June, the task force having been reinforced with other ships, Before the missile impact, the ship executed a highspeed turn away from the missile, before the Exocet struck the port side adjacent to the hangar near the stern. Pacific Exporter (British, 6734 GRT, built 1928), Ede, DSO, RN), HMS Stornoway (T/A/Lt.Cdr. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military Holland-Martin, DSC, RN) and HMS Tartar (Cdr. Let's start with early warning. Jean Jadot (Belgian, 5859 GRT, built 1929), Recorder, Yes the Gannets would have been vital but the weather in the South Atlantic was such that the Phantoms and Buccs would haveRead more . From Sousse, departed ' Convoy B ' and ' Convoy C '. They were escorted by the AA ship HMS Palomeres, destroyer ORP Blyskawica, escort destroyers HMS Lamerton, HMS Wheatland, HMS Wilton, minesweepers HMS Acute, HMS Alarm, HMS Albacore, MS trawlers HMS Hoy, HMS Incholm, HMS Mull and the motor launches HMS ML 238, HMS ML 307 and HMS ML 444. Our days of being able to project influence through our military are over. Sobieski, The force for ' B Sector ' was made up of HMS Bulolo, HMS Keren and the Awatea, Cathay, Otranto, Sobieski, Strathnaver and Winchester Castle. His book is a great read, but its also heavily biased. Petty-Major, RNVR), HMS Juliet (Lt. L.B. On one hand, HMS Ark Royal had a small, but powerful air group. The AEW version of the Sea King arrived in theatre after the fighting was over. A.G. Forman, DSC, RN), HMS Loyal (Lt.Cdr. The big advantage in the story was the gannets though the phantoms did have issues when the seas were too rough to launch. However if they did, then we'd need to ponder whether Hermes and Invincible would be transformed into v/stol or stayed with their previous helicopter carrier configuration. Gibbs, DSO and Bar, RN), HMS Royal Scotsman (Lt.Cdr. Obviously, Galtieri and his gang launched the invasion to distract attention from their domestic problems, and as I said before, in the expectation that Britain lacked the will to do anything militarily, irrespective of what forcesRead more . Ainslie, DSC, RN). Obviously a third carrier would have been beneficial and given us greater odds. F.T. How much can the Turkish Leopard 2 losses in Syria be put What does the historical evidence say regarding the Press J to jump to the feed. Shaw, RNR), HMS Polruan (Lt. C.D. C.A. Had we had a large carrier capable ofRead more . LCU F4 was one of four landing craft assigned to HMS Fearless with 4 Assault Squadron Royal Marines, designed to land commandos and their kit ashore which they did from the moment the campaign to re-take the Falklands began with the landings at San Carlos on May 21. Purse, DSC, RN), HMS Wheatland (Lt.Cdr. Find out how you can cope with the challenges of deployment using an array of support services, tools and initiatives. Gelling, DSC, RD, RNR). WebDeparted HMNB Portsmouth for 7.5 month group deployment (TG 317.6) to Australia and Far East, escorting HMS Tiger and in company with RFA Grey Rover, RFA Regent, RFA Tarbatness and RFA Tidepool. If Ark Royal went with either Hermes or Invincible, the air group would be bigger and more capable: Ark royal typically carried 26ish buccs and phantoms. The last two would have seriously altered the shore bombardment profile if they where available. [1] For a list of naval forces from Argentina, see Argentine naval forces in the Falklands War. Currently serving in the Royal Navy? The convoys would then be diverted into nine groups, these were; A few minutes later they stopped and the landings commenced. Say a 18/12 split, though that's my opinion at this point. It's certainly an interesting hypothetical and it isn't as clear-cut as you might think. HMS Rhyl Two ships of the Royal Navy have been named HMS Rhyl, after the town of Rhyl in Wales: HMS Rhyl (J36) was a Bangor -class minesweeper launched in 1940 and sold in 1948. R.V.E. Manchester Port, Nichols, USN), USS Leedstown (Cdr. Modern day list of ships supposedly lost by the British in the Falklands War, still showing Invincible and Hermes as considered or possibly sunk or damaged the old myths die hard: Here a more recent Argentine photograph from the press shows an impressive attack against HMS Penelope with the caption A greeting to your Queen: R.L. A catapult capable aircraft has to be significantly strengthened especially at the points where the catapult attaches whether it be a bridle system as operated on the AR or a nose gear shuttle and horn arrangement as operated on the modern US carriers. Given the state of her engines by the time she was retired Im not sure in she couldveRead more . As for Atlantic Conveyor, I can't see how this changes things enough so that she isn't sent. Like all other Royal Navy warships of the time, was part of the NATO fleet which patrolled to 'discourage aggression by Russia and the Soviet Block' during the Cold War. Hermes was to be scrapped in 1983, Invincible sold to Australia in December 82, Fearless was to be scrapped (rescinded a month or so before the invasion as compensation for the loss of Invincible, but she was still an old ship and would have probably been axed a few years later, and she wasnt a carrier so hardlyRead more , I was never a fan of Nott myself, but he did serve in the Army. I have a couple of other lined up to read/listen to about the Falklands too. The Argentinian junta invaded because they believed that Britain did not have the national and political will to liberate the islands, so the availability of Ark Royal would not have made a difference to their reasoning imo. Russell, RN), HMS Vanoc ( A/Cdr. Access dedicated veterans charities and get all the support you need, from help with any mental health issues to financial advice. The damaged ship anchored off Algiers around 1030A/11 being towed there by HMS Wishart and HMS St. Day. First up, a navy with Ark Royal would be an utterly different navy. The early years of Britains nuclear programme, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects, RFA Fort Victoria returns to operations after refit, NATO say Russia trying to freeze Ukraine conflict, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Airbus demonstrate A400M as a drone carrier. Lochmonar (British, 9412 GRT, built 1924), Scott, RN) departed Gibraltar to join the convoy. We empower all our people, by respecting and valuing what makes them different. They were brought into Bizerta where their cargo was unloaded. O.R. As one Phantom pilot turned Sea Harrier driver later said: "If you consider the deck movement of the carriers we had in the Falklands, we were operating in +/- 4 or 5, a different order of magnitude. They could get offloaded to a land based airstrip and would be useful in giving extra air support to the troops but that might be too risky as all the jets, fuel and munitions would be exposed. Royal Navy personnel may come from all walks of life, but they are united by one thing: a commitment to protecting our nations interests, no matter what. Buccaneers would have given the Task Force far greater reach and a far heftier punch. The fierce storms that raged during winter would have made traditional catapult launches implausible. Would things have been better with Ark Royal and her Gannets? A.C. Elton, RNR). G.L.D. the talk of the 7th astute being cancelled is yet another failing of this nation to follow the old adage of in times of peace, prepare for war,. Exceller, R. Patterson, SANF(V)), HMS Albacore (Lt.Cdr. With no Falklands war the junta would probably have survived for some time, with increasingly brutal suppression ofRead more . A final bombardment was then carried out and also aircraft from North African air bases carried out attacks. Mary Slessor, Divers, OBE, RNR, flying the flag of Rear-Admiral R.R. Chattanooga City (American, 5687 GRT, built 1921), Strathnaver (British, 22283 GRT, built 1931), Atlantic conveyor still would have gone, it wasnt just carrying harriers. L.A. Sayers, RNR), HMS Samphire (Lt.Cdr. Pound, DSC, RN) and HMS Whaddon (Lt.Cdr. HMS Rhyl was a Rothesay-class or Type 12I anti-submarine frigate of the Royal Navy, launched by Lady Macmillan on 23 February 1959 and commissioned in October 1960. N.A.F. Urlana. J.L. McNair, MBE, RNVR), HMS Inchcolm (Skr. Keeping her was not a choice that could have been made, just a matter of how long the last of her spare parts (most recycled from Eagle) would keep working. A. Stirling, RNR) and HMS Shiant (T/Lt. WebDitched and recovered by HMS Falmouth off Belize 30 Sep 1982. Churchill, RN) and HMS Wrestler (Lt. R.W.B. Maron, This is also an area for any with an interest in all things HMS RHYL. C.R. Fraser, RNR) and the motor launches HMS ML 280, HMS HDML 1127. Storyline: 4 ASRM. I think its doubtful the task force would have attempted to retake the islands if they only had a very old and unreliable carrier to send. Lochmonar, For ' R ' beach KMF A1 was destined for Algiers and KMF O1 was destined for Oran. Dempo, Warfare is going down the path of smaller, high tech engagements against terror groups and even an engagement with another nation could be limited, unless we are talking Russia, which to me is highly unlikely. Moving slowly in open waters, she proved easy prey for Argentine aircraft. Likely in wartime boosted up a bit. Ark Royals career spanned 27 years she spent more time in final fitting out and subsequent resits and modernisation (15 years) than she did in commissioned service (12 years). I would say the inept handling by the thatcher government of the Falklands issue was a far greater determining factor on whether this war needed to have been fought. Around 1815A/7, the section destined for ' C Sector ' (Charlie Sector) parted company with the convoy. 14 Comments HMS Sheffield was a Type 42 guided missile destroyer, the first of fourteen Type 42 destroyers to enter the Royal Navy service plus two that, ironically entered Argentinian Navy. E.M.C. Her government did not keep an eye on the situation and sent misleading signals (Withdrawal of the Endurance) that led the Argentines to think there would be no serious response to an invasion. Ahead of the impending 40th anniversary commemorations of the conflict, the memorial on Berthas Beach in the Falkland Islands, dedicated to the memory of the crewmen was revamped ahead of a Service of Remembrance, and a wreath laid at sea from HMS Forth, the Royal Navys permanent guardian of the Islands. The island surrendered in the evening. Convoy C ' was made up of landing ship HMS Misoa (Lt.Cdr. 2nd division, Empire Confidence, Lycaon and Theseus. They were escorted by the destroyers Brilliant, HMS Verity, M/S trawlers HMS Coriolanus, HMS Eday, HMS Inchmarnock, HMS Kerrera and the motor launches HMS ML 458, HMS ML 463, HMS ML 469, HMS ML 471 and HMS HDML 1128. Having, in my opinion, one of the best naval strike aircraft of the period available ends up with the runway put out of commission far faster and far more permanently than the Black Buck raids would ever accomplish. Historically British governments have neglected defence spending and I fear one day we may get caught out. 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